Thanks, however I just joined from my other browser that was working better, and I was logged in as it showed me your response under notifications but when i clicked on the response I again was met with you do not have permission, then after going from game forum to general forum a couple of times (that is all I did) it allowed me to access the response? I really do not know what is going on, the logout box you mentioned did nothing for me when I tried it, so for me was redundant anyway, and the other errors I get whilst logged in, so the red panel etc is whilst logged in?