This is a massive Grey area with us here... When does fast fingers and Macro mice. Legit actions, cross over to mouse wheel scroll firing. Hard for us to determine. Personally I think this crossed that line and if this was on the FFA server I think I would tb this guy. There has to be a limit imo.
Not my decision though on that server, Head Admin there may see it differently which I respect fully.
Certainly looks like scroll fire to me, no we don't like it and you are free to challenge the player in game to remove it.
Can we prove it, likely not versus modern mouse speeds, so last I heard we couldn't ban for it.
We are going to revisit this. Personally I can't for life of me see how the firing rate of that G3 in that demo, can be allowed . But as Wax has said, we (at the moment) can't do a lot about it. Robbyy has asked the question in our Council forum for the boss to give us some updated guidelines on how we can tackle this. Hopefully we can get the go ahead to do as we do with suspect W/hackers, ie do a demo, (but don't temp ban) and then the Council have a close look at it and decide. Just on the most obvious ones.
But at the moment we must carry one as we are, until we get some sort of decision.
I see in another post a player got the boot and from the chat that is the way to go from now on is that correct. Not that I can ban but if a verbal warning dosent work can one do the !w thing after getting a demo ?
Hi Sharky and all. The simple answer is no. We (all of us) can not just kick for it if we think they have a fast fire hack.... We can enquire if they have it and if they say they have, we can ask them to take it off and then warn etc etc if they don't take it off after admitting they have it. But if they say they haven't, we must just do a demo and post it. And here is why.
Up until not long ago, we were simply told that we just put up with it. What ever it looks like, however fast it is. We put up with it.. We just can not prove it so we have to live with it. Robbyy has revisited this as some of the demo's clearly show that something is just not right. Bionic fingers on a x 5 scale No way, can't be right. But where is that line?
So it is agreed, as a trial that we do a demo and place it in the forum. No kicks or bans. We just add it in the forum. And then the Head Admins and Council have a look and decide. If its clear and really really obvious it is a hack. IE a unanimous view. Then we will tb or ban the player.
Guys that is how it has to be or we will just be told to go back to not being able to do anything.. So Admins please be aware of this. No kick, no tb... Demo please.... Thank you..
Maybe some are interested in my opinion .........
It´s not a hack !!!
it is a single shot riffle ... why should a rapid fire be allowed?
On some servers allowed - on some not !!!
All the weapons are configured for the game - any change outside the normal function is not necessary and unfair.
though i know servers, or clans, there is the normal using from SPACE Bar forbidden ( bunny hopping ) hehe :-)
And this is a normal funktion !!
So , please guys , follow this procedure because if we all starting to do our job us we want - including me and other leader ship gits ,
we will go in complete chaos and witch hunt .
And i am sure that Flaty will stopped us if we start admining on that way.
Its not the end of the world if we take day or 2 to make a decision of the dodgy player.
On the other post about rapid fire , you can read about the guy who was accused ( and banned ) because of it - and he proved with the demo that he is clean.
Just to remind all of us , majority of admins were sure he using some , lets say hacks.
But his demo proved that we were wrong.
And it was not an isolated case.
Flatyy had a huge job with moving servers last few weeks - i will remind him about this issue ,
so please be patient till he make a decision about it.