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All I've done this morning is "!W XX English only please" and every now and then a clay in spawn. How important is the language issue - players get upset and and leave or they call it THE DICTATOR SERVER. What is the feeling of the other admins? Can't we just drop the English only?
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Awol
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Unfortunately Forged there are quite a few players on 24/7 that don't understand English. In the past I've asked others to interpret for me but sometimes there's no one available. I try to be lenient and not discriminate, it can make admin duties a lot more difficult but I use Google translate and urban dictionary to make sure there's no swearing.

What are the thoughts of our head admins and council members on this ?

If players are calling it the dictator server forged could have a valid point.
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When someone is upset, or just plain stupid, then tend to throw all kind of profanity at you, the only problem,
you have no idea what they are saying if it is not in English. It could be within the ok line, or long over the line.
So for me English only is very importend.

Bad behavior is not to be tollerated, as it will spred like a storm.
The good and well behaved people will stay, and that is a win win situation:)

KILL
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I normally let the "Russian" go, when it start looking like a chat room I start warning or if a player complain that so - and - so is swearing.
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The English only request is common across all our servers as far as I know and I would not like to see it dropped. As Kille says it would spread like a storm.
Aside from the swearing issue (which crops up a lot!), how on earth are we expecting the players to abide by our rules if they can't read them. Impossible.
So for the few that want to complain which has happened over the many years I have played here (can't recall how many times I have been called a fascist over this in chat) they are free leave or to play elsewhere.
To admin it, yes you are correct, if it is one person making the odd comment OK I can live with that and will usually make a comment in chat about English only, if it's more than 2 players holding a long conversation, then no I stop it......................this is usually when the swearing starts :o

Cheers w
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TubeSlayer
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Kille and Wax have hit the nail on the head. The bottom line is. We need to really know what is being said to a degree. And as all our Admins can speak English, it makes sense to ask every one to please speak English. Otherwise other nationalities might be spouting off racism or bad language in their native tongue, and we wouldn't have a clue.

There will always be a very few that will not be able to understand or speak English. That's unfortunate but the English only rule has imo, to be the best way to keep our servers a civil and fun place to play.
We do try to be extra tolerant with players that seem not to understand, and ask what language they are writing if its not obvious. Someone will always know. Then as awol says try to Google translate English only please. But if someone blasts back as we all know they sometimes do. Nazi server or fascist or words like that. They know enough English to abide by our rule.

It is a hard one I agree. Maybe it does need a bit more thought by the Head Admins and Council. But I think personally the rule is a good one and needed. We just have to be more patient with some players.
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We need someone to translate for Jalil though (TDM). I kind of like the guy for no apparent reason. Except he does like to play marines (im not casting stones though :P ). As you guys are aware Im not averse to playing marines from time to time, but this guy gets reassigned by the bot then just switches teams.

What i usually do about warnings is if the person I am giving the warning to doesnt respond, or continues doing what they are doing, I kick. It gives the player a chance to actually read why they got kicked and rejoin without penalty.
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Sharky
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There are enough programs out there if a couple player want to talk their language they should do it there.
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Wildcat
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I think if you let people speak in a foreign language they could be saying anything to you:o
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Wildcat
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I know its difficult forged as I have been told to shut up for telling them to speak english but at the end of the day it is our server, if they don't like it they can lump it ... I am very lenient in giving a warning but when they take the mick and tell you to shut up it sends me crazy lol:o
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Nobody - Nobody should ever tell The Cat to SHUT UP.......I see it is unanimous that language is actually very important.
I'll stick to my guns and just be a bit lenient.
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As't thee 'iver sin a cuddy jump a five bar gate. lol :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Its an English language server. People choose if they want to play on OGHF servers and they have to follow the rules. If they can't understand enough English to follow the rules do you really want them on the server? They can always translate the rules themselves!

I don't understand why they have to use the chat at all! If the rules require English and you can't speak it then just (edited by forum moderator) and play the game!

This all sounds a bit Brexit but I'm not like that at all ("oh yes you are" shouts the audience). I'm embarrassed by my lack of language skills and generally hate the globalisation of the English language BUT admins have to be able to understand what people are saying and there's no requirement for chat to enjoy the game.
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RogerRabbit
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Swearing is not tolerated on our servers or our website -
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robbyy
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In general , not just about language rule....


Rules have to be respected , and we have to do our job.

Most important part of our job is to make our servers more popular , so admins should be patient and calm.

For me , we , admins , are here to help the clan grow up.

Its easy to be bossyy and harsh , but its not better for the clan.
Every ordinary admin can do it but i think OGHF admins are not and shouldnt be ordinary.

So , in the start we should be lenient and ask nicely our guests to respect rules.

If they dont want it or acting rude on our requests , they will get what they ask - warnings and kick.
We always have a time for penalties for players who constantly breaking our rules or dont want to show respect to OGHF .

Some will learn , some not , but we have to fight for every new player on our servers.

I have my moments when i start admining ( being too strict and harsh - i was just defending OGHF rules ) ,
but i learn what is more important from older gits....

Hope you will understand my points in a good way ...


And my Engrish is sooo perfect lol
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If the rules require English and you can't speak it then just (edited by forum moderator) and play the game!


Sure I put "be quiet" there :p

Sorry Rabbit :(
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Wildcat
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naughty Trash write 500 lines .....oops:p
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reverse
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Game text console is only for game communication, not for chatting or politics or recipes or....
Communication means that all players (or all team members) should understand the message. Specially the admins.

So English is obligatory and rule should be sustained.


My english are not so perfect... Something above “me Tarzan , you Jane”. But I insist to keep them as official server language :)
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Very nicely explained by reverse.
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Wildcat
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Guilty as charged Reverse for chatting:p
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It's not only about not understanding people I think. Speaking the same language unites people in a community like OGHF. If everyone speakes his "home" language, people get excluded. And thats not what OGHF is about! Right?!;)
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