1. _NK_
  2. Call of Duty Modern Warfare (COD4)
  3. Sunday, 14 April 2019
  4.  Subscribe via email
Hello fellas.

Today (4/14/2019) I was told, by two admins, that jumping down out of a window and shooting is a big no, no.
I would put next to it jumping down off a roof and shooting, etc.
As I do it quite often, I want to be sure I'm not breaking "no jumping and shooting" rule.

Personally, I find shooting while you are flying out of a window or down off a roof or stairs or jumping from one building to another, OK.


cheers
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
Sharky
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
I don't know what management has to say but my opinion is that jumping and firing from any place or position is not ok. I think a hardcore server should be as realistic as possible and stuff like that makes no sense.
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
robbyy
Council Member
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
Hi NK m8 ,

we had a disscusion before couple of months about it ,
but a lot of people have issues with webby connection for a months , so iam sure that some of our admins missed it.

This is my point of view :



In my book - if you fall down from balcony /bridge /window/roof etc and shooting while you in the air is allowed .

Jumping down the stairs and shoot is not allowed because you can walk down.

Jump over the obstacle and shoot is a grey zone for me - sometimes you see the enemy just in that part of sec while you in the air and start shooting reflexively , which is normal reaction..
On the other side you can jump all the time over every obstacles and it gives you unfair advantage - you run and jump and shoot in the same move - no walking transition.

------------------------------------

Just to add ( reffering to your question ) , its not an intentional jump to get advantage , and tbh i am doing it as well.


And thanks NK , this is an example how players should deal in the case like this one -
without arguing in the game with admins and open polite post about the issue.

Cheers :)
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
aims
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
This is my take on this.

I don't think that jumping down off of a building or window is unacceptable and in some situations its the only to get to someone camping somewhere. Firing at the same time is ok I think as long as its not used as an alternative to jumping in front of someone and its natural game play as in you are moving around the playing field. I think I would however take dim view of someone jumping off somewhere and firing in mid air. So if you jump down and both feet are on the ground when firing I am fine with that.

Jumping around the battle field, not over obstacles like a lunatic is not realistic. I also think that jumping behind a wall etc and firing at the same time is as bad.

Basically if your feet are on the ground when you are firing and stay on the ground then I think its fine.

We also discussed throwing a grenade and the consensus was that in this case its fine to jump and throw. This would be normal and if anything you are not firing and a little more exposed when jumping.

That's my take on this.

Maybe we (OGHF) need to write an admin rule book. We can't think every scenario but we can add to the content as an when so that we all have the same approach. The rules are clear, but how they are read and interpreted between admins can vary slightly.

Cheers

Aims
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
TubeSlayer
Council Member
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
Jumping to avoid fire or jumping around a corner is not allowed. And also jumping up and shooting over a wall is not allowed. (I personally can't see why jumping and shooting over a wall is not allowed, but hey ho, it is not so i live with it)

Jumping from somewhere and shooting, I can't see a problem with that either. I've been killed dozens of times in that way, and never thought it a problem. But I'm not sure either what the clans actual rule is. But I think we need to get it clarified, so this we will do.

Thanks for the question..
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
aims
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo


Jumping from somewhere and shooting, I can't see a problem with that either. I've been killed dozens of times in that way, and never thought it a problem. But I'm not sure either what the clans actual rule is. But I think we need to get it clarified, so this we will do.




My issue with this is that it is effectively the same as jumping in front of someone but you have the added advantage of being behind a wall or another object. We should maintain the "Keep your feet on the ground" in any scenario when firing.

Just my thoughts but will see what gets clarified.

Cheers

Aims
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
aims
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo


Jumping from somewhere and shooting, I can't see a problem with that either. I've been killed dozens of times in that way, and never thought it a problem. But I'm not sure either what the clans actual rule is. But I think we need to get it clarified, so this we will do.





Think we should enforce "keeping your feet on the ground" when firing and that should cover all scenarios? So if you jump and land and then shoot fine but jumping and shooting mid air in some situations leaves a grey area and then difficult to explain the difference between our no jump and shoot policy.

Cheers

Aims
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
Wildcat
Council Member
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
If someone shoots at me I am probably guilty of shooting whilst my paws are NOT on the ground:o
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
Orion
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
I agree with robbyy and others on this thread. Falling while shooting is ok. Im against jumping and shooting in any shape or form.... Actually - i really dont see the point in that rule but it is a rule so hey ho. If someone is jumping over an obstacle, spots someone and starts shooting thats, as far as Im concerned, the same as shooting while falling and is ok. My justification is that anyone that can jump over an obstacle is more vulnerable while doing so. They arent jumping to avoid fire etc. Jumping to shoot over an obstacle that cannot be physically jumped over is a no-no.
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
fergoyle
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
Everyone already knows what I think.about the hopping rule... :D That aside...

What you describe is well within our rules as far as I'm aware.

As with everything in life peoples interpretation can sometimes drift from the original intention, not out of malice, it's just human nature.

Thanks for posting NK as this is a recurring theme and it won't do any harm to firm up our rule set on this topic.
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
RedsKills
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
Jumping down from "any position" and shooting is, as far as i know, not a problem.

Jumpshots (jump and fire over obstacles) are not ok...

Throwing a nade while jumping in order to throw it further, is no problem.

At least thats how i deal with it...

Cheers Rob.
Attachments (1)
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
robbyy
Council Member
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
Red wrote:

" Jumping down from "any position" and shooting is, as far as i know, not a problem."

In my book its ok as well , apart of jumping downstairs.

Falling down dont gives to the player any advantage - thats my reason for allowed it.

We can disscuss it on the meeting , and if you gits have different opinion about it , no problem .
Feel free to say what you mean - we can use vote system if you want .

P.S.

No Fergy , we will not vote to allowed all sort of jumping :D
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
fergoyle
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
Robby you ruin all my fun. :p
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
reverse
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
Hello all,
Here is my opinion:

Jumping once from a roof or a high place and shooting someone is not a big deal. But using this as a tactic to get more kills makes unbalance against other players. Its unfair and unfair practices I think are not welcome here.
And don't forget this is a camp server. This means "first look and then move - or jump the roof". In this way most of the times, you can avoid firing and get fired :)
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
aims
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
I agree with Rev and the general consensus that it is ok. Just as long as you are not using it for some tactic like jump and spin and shoot etc. That's as bad as jumping in front of someone.
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
aims
Game Server Admin
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
0
Votes
Undo
One of the reasons I like our server, the rules make sense. Never seen a soldier hopping around a battlefield in any war film or recorded film of fighting. This ain't hidden dragon crouching tiger or that bruce lee game from the 80s!
Comment
There are no comments made yet.
  • Page :
  • 1


There are no replies made for this post yet.
Be one of the first to reply to this post!